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spartlog1 |
Positive thinking vs TMS thinking
Aug 28 2011, 9:39 PM EDT
Hi, I am on day 12 of the recovery protocol. One of the questions posed by the Wiki was this: " does deliberately trying to think positively prevent us from recognizing our suppressed emotions, which are the cause of TMS, and actually prevent us from overcoming TMS? ... or is it possible to do both at the same time?" Does anyone have an answer to that? Do you find this valuable?
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pete32963 |
1. RE: Positive thinking vs TMS thinking
Aug 29 2011, 2:46 AM EDT
read my posts above, over a ten year period I eliminated tms all the way from gastric reflux, to back pain to ADD. If you decide to just simplify things by just keeping a positive outlook, keeping things simple, not considering negative possibilities you will develop TMS. That's how it happened to me. A parent taught me to think that way and it caused a major case of it over much of my life. That type of thinking is TMS, it’s the dysfunctional pattern of thought that most of us have learned that brought on this problem. You have to be open to fully thinking out every situation as it occurs as negative or positive., in an unstructured manner were you figure it out as you go. TMS is formed by a simplistic manner of just being happy go lucky and keeping it simple. You have to be open to all thought negative and positive per situation and once you through sarnos books and break the grip of tms this will happen automatically on its own. That's what happened to me. pete32963@comcast.net
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2. RE: Positive thinking vs TMS thinking
Aug 29 2011, 3:25 AM EDT
I agree with Pete above. I would like to add a bit. Positive thinking in the form of "I know this pain is real, but it is psychological in origin--there is nothing physically wrong with me" should help. Repeating positive affirmations such as "my <body part> is completely healthy" and visualizing success by imagining yourself problem free have been helpful to me in the past and present.
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pete32963 |
3. RE: Positive thinking vs TMS thinking
Aug 29 2011, 10:17 AM EDT
Your right on the nose. What you’re doing equates to not being concerned or intimidated by the symptoms. That's the corner stone for eliminating TMS. It's undermining the ego/subconscious mind. Negating what it's attempting to do to you. Taking away its power. Thinking psychologically instead of physical. The easiest way is to go to the list of daily reminders in book 1 healing back pain, read them, think a little and then move on. Then above all continue on thinking psychologically as you move proceed through your day. You literally will hear the subconscious thoughts surface. You get stronger control if you do this as you are moving through your daily life and walking against the symptoms, literally reciting his steps as you multi task. Literally while you’re walking against the pain. It takes a sharp jab at the hypothalamus. It's the best approach I have experienced in any of his books. I will not be concerned or intimidated by the symptoms. I will shift my attention from the symptoms to emotional issues, I intend to be in control not my subconscious mind. I must think think psychological at all time, not physical. Most of all also continue on with your daily life, literally stand up to your hypothalamus. In my case what my hypothalamus tried to do it to jab back with extreme pain, but I blew it off and it stopped. I began to realize what a complete joke it was. That it couldn't truly cause any damage to me in any way. Then the symptom imperative started, you know symptom switching to somewhere else. I blew that off too and went back to his steps and said them out loud to myself and eventually as doing this intense emotional thoughts would surface. This was while switching occurred from lower back pain, to gastric reflux, to ringing in my ears, to sneezing attacks, to inner ear muscle spasm occurrences which mess with your balance, makes you inattentive, causes auditory perception issues.
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spartlog1 |
4. RE: Positive thinking vs TMS thinking
Sep 1 2011, 7:29 PM EDT
What I hear you guys saying is: Dont repress negative emotions, allow them to be experienced. However, I dont think you want to fall into letting the negative emotions take over your life. Therefore, the "I know this pain is real but psychological, and nothing is wrong with my body" is the internal self talk I should have.Do you find this valuable? |
ForestForTreesTMS |
5. RE: Positive thinking vs TMS thinking
Sep 6 2011, 9:52 AM EDT
It sounds like you have figured out what will work best for you which is terrific, and one of the most important parts of recovery. In terms of negative emotions, it may be enough to simply understand that there are negative emotions that are behind our symptoms. It may not be necessary to fully experience them, but to simply understand the process.
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Ollin |
6. RE: Positive thinking vs TMS thinking
Sep 6 2011, 9:52 PM EDT
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Pete's advice is great. I would summarize that once we accept the TMS diagnosis, we let go of our fears enough to embrace life again, and if any doubts occur we should remind ourselves of the psychological nature of the symptoms, but avoid dwelling on it. Because there is a danger of taking the psychological thinking too far. I fell into the habit of constantly monitoring my thoughts and feelings. This not only wore me down mentally, so I was unable to spontaneously 'live my life', but I think I developed conditioning: i.e. when I experienced negative feelings I expected that the pain will follow, and it did. Even reading about negative emotions in Sarno's book made me tense up and get more pain.A few weeks ago I came to realize that I was getting frustrated with all my attempts to resolve my TMS and this is enough to perpetuate my symptoms. I still have the pain but so far the best strategy for me was to ignore it - not deny the pain but refuse to be in any way intimidated by it. Without paying much attention to my subconscious mind I tell myself "This isn't a real pain, my mind is just playing tricks on me", and it takes away its power. As I got on with my life, the first thing I noticed was improvement in my mood and more positive thoughts. I also have more pain-free days. But I also need to stay away from reading and analyzing all the information about TMS available because I easily get obsessed with stuff that interests me. There's a great thread about this approach here: http://tmswiki.org/thread/3383681/Why+do+some+people+not+get+on+with+Dr+Sarno%27s+method%3F 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
